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May 8, 2009 at 6:25 am #1940bestlurkerMember
So, let me get this straight. I must be an insider disclosing trade secrets because I post on here with information that came from a little common sense, and a little bit of putting 2 and 2 together; and Mr Fact, who breaks the news of Samsung building Kenmore laundry (quite erroneously, mind you) in the same vein as Chicken Little, claiming Whirlpool is done for, is a saint and his word is gospel. Puh-lease.
Alright, because I seem to be talking to people who don’t seem too capable of performing simple math, let’s do some addition here:
1. Flyers received in the mail today, and walking through any local Sears store, will show Kenmore’s HE series of F.L. laundry alongside Kenmore’s AST (Samsung built laundry) and Kenmore’s Frigidaire-built 3.5cf and 3.1cf FL laundry. According to said flyer, which is sitting on the desk beside me, the HE3 and HE5 line are not clearance-priced, indicating they are continuing alongside the other machines for some time to come.
2. Frigidaire doesn’t build bottom-mount fridges (yet); GE fridges and LG fridges are very similar in design (since Kenmore already has LG building some bottom mounts, why add GE to the mix); Bosch is new to the fridge lineup, and Samsung really only has the big monster fridges. Why would Sears (Kenmore) cut off ties to Whirlpool, who are really the only other brand that can build bottom mounts right now, especially those in the 18cf size?
3. Neither Samsung nor LG handle Top-Load laundry. Consumer Reports rates some GE Top-Load laundry as "not recommended". Hmmm… who to get to build that for Kenmore?
4. Speaking of Consumer Reports, LG and Samsung F.L. Laundry are rated consistently higher than Kenmore F.L. laundry. Common factor? LG and Samsung are direct drive. Another year without direct drive means another year that someone has a perceived competitive advantage over Sears.
So, with no real insider knowledge, just adding 2 and 2, a person can come up with everything I posted above.May 8, 2009 at 2:39 pm #1942The AdvisorKeymaster
To those in the industry, the idea that Kenmore has dropped Whirlpool as a supplier lacked credibility, though readers have no problem believing that Kenmore has a strategy of diversifying its supply base. We welcome Lurkers comments. None of them seemed proprietary, therefore I assumed ApplianceStallion was actually commenting upon Mr. Facts’ "facts", which would have been confidential.
To comment on Cohiba and ApplianceStallion discussion of "fact" based conversation on the Forums and the irate complaints of a high level executive to me at KBIS. The Forum is a comment field for the readership. Brands should respond officially to incorrect information, as Lurker has here. It would be lovely if readers qualified the information they include by terming it FACT, RUMOR, CONJECTURE, ASSUMPTION, etc, etc, but what are the chances of that?May 8, 2009 at 4:26 pm #1944I never believed Mr. Fact and you are shooting at ghosts while attempting to say you are right. At some point you may hit a ghost because of the volume of will be’s you spit out.May 8, 2009 at 6:12 pm #1945I think both have some weakness to them. Anyone may at some point make an official announcement through the Advisor thread. I would like to see that become the norm and most discussions have some merit.Don’t want to see the site become a rumor thread only.May 15, 2009 at 8:40 pm #1984bestlurkerMember
Mr. Stallion: Thank you for your polite way of saying that I know nothing. I never denied, nor did I admit, that I hold any position within the grand structure of Sears. I will say that the information I have revealed in my posts is valid information, verified by people within the grand structure of Sears somewhere in North America.May 15, 2009 at 9:15 pm #1985Talk is nothing until the plan is properly announced by the right personnel. I think if some people would concentrate on selling instead of formulating rumors or gossip that person would perform better. The depth you got into took a while to get there. You have stamina , I will give you that.June 4, 2009 at 8:42 pm #2050mikeseMember
A new lowes was just built near me not far from a home depot at sears I don’t see them getting rid of whirlpool at all in fact the one near me lets you order whirlpool parts through them if needed.
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