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Whirlpool Brings Laundry Lines Back to USA from Germany, Mexico: EXCLUSIVE

Whirlpool is shifting production of its Front Loader Laundry products to Ohio from Germany and Mexico.  Many of these units were manufacturered at Whirlpool's Bauknecht factory in Germany and were sold under the Maytag, Whirlpool Duet and Kenmore Elite HE3 brands.  Production is expected to be 200K - 300K per year and to start running off the line Q3 - Q4 this year.

There has been no comment yet from the European Community on the general unfairness of the decision.

ApplianceAdvisor.com tips its hat in Whirlpool's general direction, though we wonder how much Ohio sweetened the deal.

Note:  We wrote "Exclusive", but is it?  We were not able to find mention of this news item from any other source, but alas we are not perfect.

 would this have anything

 would this have anything to do with Whirlpool not maaking the Kenmore any longer. Did Sears make them produce thhere laundry in Germany I just find it odd that all of a sudden they are moving production back to U.S   

somewhat valid??

The timing of this post is interesting:  While I did not see the story, I had two people tell me that the story made mention of Whirlpool bringing front load production back home to the USA (Ohio specifically).  Here is the news story I believe they were referring to: www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/lake-county-company-adding-dozens-of-jobs . Neither the video at that website nor the article itself make any mention of the move home, but the timing of all this is interesting.  Either way, bringing any production back to the USA is a good thing, and I salute Whirlpool for doing the right thing. 

Let's Just Hope ...

... that the Unions don't get their grubby hands on this great move !!! 

Unions

Unions can be dealt with. We need good management to deal with that issue.

I disagree, ...

... Unions tend to be a pox on business, that's why manufacturing jobs were moved overseas !!!    
 
I would have thought that they would have looked to a "Right to Work" state where Unions are made redundant ... like the southern states who have successfully wooed and kept the foreign automobile companies, which the "Big Three" were ruined by !!!

Unions !!

One of the facilities  I currently manage is a union facility.  We have 250 employees in that facility. We have made it very clear how we will run the business and want them to work with us to acheive that. Fairness and clarity works both ways. A good manager can deal with these issues for the most part. The key is continued productive improvements that improve throughput. The biggest challenge with unions is employee performance of a minority of the workers. That can be handled properly and legally.The unions you speak about are the auto , aerospace and other huge manufacturers that need to frankly manage better.They  usually lazy managers who want to blame the unions for everything. At the end of the day the company runs the business. Keep that perspective. The unions do not thave the same chokehold as the 1950's or 60's.Unions are much more receptive these days. You seem to be slightly out of touch on this issue.In a loving way.

Yeah, but ...

... there are Unions in the country who have a stranglehold on those industries they maintain membership in ... I'm glad you do not find yourself @ loggerheads in your facility !!!
 
Whenever I hear of Unions I immediately think of those organizations who use their dues to back, campaign, and interfere with candidates ... and you're right about my thought process, but when GM came to Congress they also had the Union behind them ... 
 
Unions were originally set up to guarantee that worker's working conditions were faire, safe, and consistent ... when any Union supports a candidate, a sitting politician, or even a lobbying group with Union dues there is corruption because the Union is operating absolutely ... 
 
As I said, I'm glad your present experience is not interfering with you (yet) and I wish you continuance of that ...

Relevance of unions

Bob ... I agree.  At one time, unions served a useful purpose in protecting workers from unsafe conditions, unfair labor practices and abusive management. Today, employees have OSHA to assure safe working conditions and Workman's Comp to step in when injuries do happen.

The Federal minimum wage may not exactly be a living wage, but absent a union's collective bargaining tool, freemarket forces would set base wages at a level above minimum that was equal to the fair market value of the labor performed. Beyond the base pay, State and Federal legislation protects worker's from overtime abuse.

As far as I'm concerned, unions serve only one purpose; to use collective bargaining as a means of jacking up wages and benefits beyond the fair market value of that labor.  They have no other relevant purpose.    

Unions & Their Place.

The unions at one time did protect people from conditions created by poor management which is just about what you described on every issue. Given the state of economics what you are missing is that the unions have begun to develop a relationship with companies and are looking to survive and assist the management in producing a sustainable business model. The larger unions with pensions of the old variety have a challenge but the new models are different given 401k's. Insurance costs are averaging about $13,000 per year per employee and dependents. Some of which is covered by employee contributions but is still mostly company paid. Good managers have taken a different approach these days. Coming from the days of large unions it is incumbent upon managers at all levels to be involved in protecting productivity and getting the bang for the buck. That is being done and in fact some unions are helping with that. I agree with the comments that state and federal laws are stronger but the unions have made a compelling case to some organizations to serve them. That can and does work with proactive managers and workers who have the goals aligned for success.My experience at the place we both worked at was one of building walls and not very good interaction from the management to the union or production workers. Given that employees need to feel that extra wall of protection with the union we can deal with that and we also deal with the few malcontents. The workforce has changed since you have hung'em up. Probably a combination of things but mostly motivated by the economy and shrinking job pool. Still , I am inclined to believe we can work with unions with good , solid management. Friends of mine on Boards of Directors of larger companies are also seeing unions attempting to partner up in a more productive manner these days.

Unions their place II

Stallion ... I'm sure that you're right about the changes in the workforce since I "hung up my spurs".  Just about everything has changed since then.  But I'm not sure what you mean about unions working with management to increase productivity.  At most they are simply agreeing to concessions on pay and benefits that they wouln't haven't gotten in the first place in a free market and/or agreeing to productivity goals in lieu of concessions or tied to additional benefits.  What exactly are your unions doing for you in this brave new world that you could not have accomplished without them?

Unions Continued.

As a matter of record all organizations are looking at ways to reduce the cost of benefits and pay.In this environment it is fairly consistent that companies are looking at ways to reduce medical costs which are significantly high. On average about $7.00 per hour in medical benefits pay alone. So the market is doing something to change both the pay structure and benefits in general. Most companies have gone to a 401k program that is substantially less  than the burden of the company totally funding a pension program and having to manage the program and make good on bad investments.The public workers will also soon see this pot of gold reduced in the future as it is effecting our tax base.What unions in general are doing is assisting in becoming a part of the solution by working with companies and helping educate the employees in the need for productivity improvements we need to make. This alone is a big deal and quite a change in the direction unions have been taking. So from the perspective of a functional partnership they have allowed management to concentrate on these improvements much like we would in a non union shop without the rancor that accompanies grievances and slow downs. Many union people still have some sort of wariness in dealing with management and that will improve with time. Our union specifically has helped in the cost of training employees and in meeting with them and us concerning economic stabilty. A real change. It is happening in most organizations. The biggest impediment has been the us vs. them attitude that appears to have been reduced and eliminated in some quarters. My exposure recently has seen them partner up if for no other reason than they can survive as an entity to represent people and keep their doors open. Detente if you will. Most smart companies are using that to their advantage.

Say what?

Stallion .... after carefully reading your explanation above, it seems to me that what you are saying is that Unions are cooperating with management by helping them make changes in over-inflated pay and benefit packages that wouldn't have been there in the first place if not for the Union. Say what?

Unions Cont.

Unions were created to protect workers and raise their wages.  Union won benefits and wages and in so doing created the world's largest middle class.  When unions succeed in winning benefits above what the market or the company can afford, can we blame the unions or can we blame management for signing the contract, or not banking enough cash to withstand a strike, or for an American business system which looked at labor as "them" instead of "us"

In the course of winning benefits, walls of distrust formed between management and labor.  When told some economic truth, labor may not believe it.  Unions pushed for a myriad of defined trades: pipe fitters, electricians, machinists, steam fitters, making the production floor brittle when it should be flexible.  Manufacturers abused their position, abused their workers, and pushed for their own staggering wages hundreds of times higher than those working the floor.  Because they are magicians of business?  They may be nice people, but they are not due 500X salaries and benefits.  Labor has gotten so selfish that they have recently voted for layoffs instead of cuts in pay and hours.

The relationship between Labor and Management need not be a disfunctional.  Only by being too selective in the evidence you are looking at could you conclude that labor is responsible for all the problems in the relationship.

Who is to blame?

Advisor... I doubt that any of your readers would place blame entirely on our Unions. I'm sure we all agree that salaries in the corner office have gone off the charts and that senior managment has gotten a well deserved whipping in the public eye. And, corporate greed would have probably moved production offshore for cheaper wages with or without Unions.

But, are Unions part of the solution now (as Stallion suggests) or are they still part of the problem?  Accepting layoffs instead of reductions (as you point out) reflects a continued priority of benefits and senority over employment and recovery.

And Bob correctly took issue with Union campaign contributions. According to the Federal Election Commission, Unions have provided 39% of total contributions compared to 26% by individuals and 14 by corporations. I'm not a fan of Unions o overpaid CEOs.

More Than Just CEO Salaries

I will suggest that unions in general recognize that they can be a part of the solution. First of all labor in a well managed company generally is 5-7% of the cost at sales price. Hardly the place you will find large amounts of profits. Throughput and improved productivity will help that.Salaries are inflated at other levels in management from the CEO right on down to the managers. The company you worked for always complained at the management level that the workers did a lousy job. I am here to tell you that management from top to bottom did a lousy job of managing people and that created the us vs. them scenario. Short sighted people go offshore to reduce cost because they know of no other way to do it. This forces others to have no choice but to do some blended overseas manufacturing. You talk about selfish union workers. When was the last time managers volunteered to reduce their pay or work days ? Just what I thought. Do as I think not as I do is my guess on what you are thinking.Contributions ? My God man so do companies and CEO's do the same. Don't judge the working class unfairly. I am proud to say that I grew up in a working/middle class family with solid values and I respect the people who work hard in a tough environment so the likes of you can have three martini lunches and complain when it is cut to two. Respecting the working class will help the country not hurt it.

Respectfully object II

Stallion.... AA forwarded your e-mail and I appreciate that you took the time to clear things up. I still reserve the right to disagree with you from time to time, but will do so with respect and occasional humor. Hope you do the same. That is, afterall what makes this site interesting.

And, while I still maintain my innocence on three martini lunches, I'll be happy to make an exception with you if you're ever in town.

Objecting is the Spice of Life

Cohiba. Thomas Jefferson once said"when it comes to style , swim with the group , when it comes to policies and opinions please object". Something to that affect.The site has more interest when it is not a love fest but has constructive disagreements from time to time.Humor and respect are good things. I look forward to our continuing conversations. Maybe a Cadillac Margarita would be great when we meet.Home builders show maybe ?

Opinions

Stallion.  Oliver Wendell Holmes said, "man's mind, once stretched by a new idea, never regains its original dimensions." I look forward to our continued disagreements. Your opinions do often stretch my mind. 

I like the Margarita suggestion but probably won't attend the show this year. Maybe another time. 

Respectfully object

Stallion .... In a prior posting you alluded to a "company we both worked for."  Now, you're alluding to management complaints about "workers doing a lousy job."  I know we exchanged e-mails at one point and I thought you knew who I am, but you've obviously confused me with someone else. As far as I know, we were competitors (more than once) but never worked at the same firm.

And, at the company I worked for, we complained about our competitors and sometimes our suppliers but never the workers. We were quite proud of the work they did (and said so often).

And, please don't insult me with accusations of three martini lunches. You have never dined with me and I can assure you, martini lunches didn't happen 

Atlantic & Bandini

I know who you are and since you enjoyed insulting the factory workers who obviously don't measure up to your standards ,I thought an insult back to you was fair play.The three martini lunch could have substituted any choice of liquor.Hurts doesn't it ? How about those evil union guys living on one fifth of what you earned ? Think the managers who mismanaged that business are suffering like the factory guys are ? In the nine years I enjoyed working for the other high end guy in town they at least understood respect for all people. Maybe that is why they are still in So. California.The company at the above address was great when the guy who owned it took time to meet with the people and there was mutual respect,not some nuerotic excuse for poor sales .I have not confused you with anyone else since you gave me your name. Respect the workers. By the way we can disagree, still be mad and still have some respect for other folks ideas. The old saying goes like this"You will be successful once you realize that it is what you learn after you thought you knew everything" that is important.

Read Slower

Given the grave condition of the economy there is an adjustment taking place and unions do understand that and are working in conjunction with their respective companies to help with productivity gains and assisting the union workers to understand that.Since when are the union wages or worker's wages the only ones over inflated ? When I see the salaries and expenses of sales management and other managers I cringe. The  thing is those are also going through an adjustment period. I see expense reports from sales people that have and have had much waste in them so please don't assume the workers are causing all the problems. The fact is that management has in fact for years been negligent in taking charge of their business through sloppy practices , overspending and then blame the factory workers. All the while spending money for entertainment like it is going out of style. I frankly respect the worker and what they do and help them to work with management as a team. I did that even before this latest economic fiasco and we always have had productivity gains that probably led our industry. The fact is times are changing and even if you have been out of the fracas for only a year a person is probably not in tune with the latest sustainability process. A refreshing time to gain back some of the competitive advantages we used to enjoy. The American worker is not dead yet. Management seems to be getting better and that in itself will help.We can still be a world leader.We have to do away with the us vs. them (workers) mentality.I am not afraid to work with the unions if I have to.They are trying to make a living like all of us are.We get paid to manage that properly.

Optimism ...

... as long as it is realistic is certainly an admirable trait to possess, but it has to be supported, and even galvanized, by a more broad viewpoint ...
 
I pick up the newspaper every day and see major Unions from the Auto Workers to Teachers to Teamsters all raping our country's companies with ridiculous demands, requirements, and all while going head-to-head with any politician who dare defy them or their agendas !!!   
 
There's a real and viable reason why the European & Asian car manufacturers have settled in "Right to Work" states ... and it's simply because those states essentially make Unions moot !!!
 
You speak of this union where you are at ... without giving anything away, what Union are they member of ???   I ask, because if they are as utopian as you say, they ought to be the topic of a documentary on CNBC !!!   Imagine, a Union who does not participate in any of the despicable practices the "Big Boys" do ... 
 
As far as Expense Accounts and all that, remember, I'm the guy who thought he should be compensated for being away from home overnight when I was in the Corporate world ... so, you myopic and my myopic views certainly conflict on that topic !!!

I am Living It

Bob...Thanks for your comments . I happen to be living this process out and seeing it first hand as other managers of businsses are seeing it. In terms of public entity unions , they have no responsibility to a bottom line similar to our politicians. Therefore they support their agenda with donations and until the public holds government responsible to manage money correctly they will continue that. You can include firemen , policemen and all government workers in a union for the same pilfering of exacting unrealistic pensions that have an absolute guarantee and any shortfall is picked up by the taxpayer.Unions historically have helped this country develop a solid middle class of workers who can actually afford the products they produce. It is up to management to manage the business properly and get the buy in of all workers. Not a difficult concept to follow. My earlier experience in the late 60's was that my impression was of weak managers who blamed everything on the poor workers while they wasted money and never once helped to fix any problems. This carried over until recently and most of us survivors work hard at sustainability of current business with much more of a focus on fixing problems and motivating people to help in that journey. Our union represents well over 6,000 members and has a good understanding of what needs to be done to bring back the American worker and lifestyle.I also as a matter of business requirements travel but in today's world I avoid the $100.00 per person splurge and I don't think people need to entertain customers on the companies monies at strip clubs. You would be surprised how much abuse there has been.I am of the opinion that management creates about 99% of all the problems that befall them.

Well, while it is true ...

 ... that the positive aspects of Unions are that they created a class of worker who could afford what they produced, but alas and allay, they often went much too far once they had to power to do so ... 
 
I think there's a fine line between a Union cooperating with Management and a Union having to Toe-the-Line to preserve jobs !!!   I, for one, do not understand how any responsible person could even allow cutting police and/or fire jobs to pass thru their mind for consideration !!!
 
So, I'm curious what function your 6000 member Union provides that could not be accomplished otherwise ... I say this because traditionally Unions ask - and sometimes obtain - for way more than they ever expect to get !!!   Remember, the overwhelming majority of us know of the abusive Unions !!!
 
As far as your distain for "entertainment expenses" ... I understand how one could come to the conclusion, but you have to understand that things like the Super Bowl and other events exist because of their life's blood, and that's the expense accounts being used to "entertain" or "encourage" or "cajole" business ... Just look @ the PGA Tour event sponsors, which is nothing more than another grand event to "care for" your clients, suppliers, etc. al !!!
 
So then there's the next natural event to talk about and that's K-Biz !!!   Just because they have it does not mean they will come, because if the Manufacturers cannot have the the people they wish to focus on attend the show, then they will not participate !!!   I hope the powers-that-be get my drift someday !!!
 
Anyway, something change ... others don't ... and maybe the best that can be hoped for is a modification thereof ... 

Huh ????

They probably did go too far when we had no overseas competition.Whatever you think the reason is it is working throughout the entire country in the private sector.Cutting public pensions for people who receive 85%-90% of their pay after retirement even when the pension funds suffer causes excessive taxes on the taxpayer. Cut the pensions like they would in the private sector when the stocks/investments take a dump. Don't treat the cops and firemen like they are entitled to any more than the rest of us. I don't have the same opinions that they all are in it to serve the public good.I see the unions of the firemen here in California to be of the same ilk as the Hoffas of the 60's. Politicking and BS and all the hero talk. Most of them have second jobs that they work on while on duty in the station. They weren't commisioned to fight fires , they chose the profession.My best friend growing up was a policeman and I know all about them needing overtime so they would hassle people just before the end of the shift to get the additional four hours OT.He still is my best friend too.You recognize the abusive unions for what they were. You need to not live in the past. Look at what is current and relevant in business today.As for expenses , those are far different from marketing strategies that you mention. I understand the difference. I hope you will some day. Marketing strategies vs. excessive entertainment expenses. Not the same means to an end frankly. You have to look at this from 50,000 feet as they say.

The only reason ...

... there is any drain on the tax base for pensions of people who faithfully served their community during their career is because the community now requires more services than they did before ... services, which often are ridiculous !!!   Services like they provide in my state, where the Driver's test can be administered in YOUR native language ... even though all our road signage is in ENGLISH !!! 
 
Pensions ... no matter what sector of business ... should never be touched !!!   Do you then think it faire to say to the pensioner that his/her pension is now worth less because the economy is poor ???   Perish the thought !!!   He/She worked many, many years to earn that pension and to reduce it now is downright criminal !!!
 
You have a very jilted view of Police, Fire, & Emergency personnel ... For the record, they often work other jobs for the same reason the rest of America does ... the fact that shift work makes them a little more obvious makes no difference !!!   
 
So, my friend, you ask me to look to the future of Unions ... OK, faire enough ... but I asked you to please identify the Union you speak so glowing of, so may I please have the pleasure of that response ???
 
I'm sorry you have a jaded view of expense accounts ... as I tried to express before, you and I might never be able to understand each other on this because you are myopic against them, and I am myopic in favour of expenses many never received ...  
My example still stands ... Years ago, I was required to be away from home for about ten (10) days a month and encompassed stops across the country ...
 
1.   My employer refused to let me come home for the weekend ...
 
2. As a part of my job, I was expected to participate in a continuing education programme @ the local university for extra college credits but missed a few classes each month which I was required to attend (essentially double up my schedule).
 
3. I worked a part-time job to supplement my income because I had a young family ... I missed may 5-7 days which I outright lost because I was away ...
 
When I asked to be reimbursed for the time I lost by having to double-up @ school, thus losing more part-time work, I was roundly refused !!!   In my mind THEY sent me away, then a THEY should bear the responsibility of my expenses, that THEY took me away from !!!   Eventually I remediated the problem by leaving and all their time and $$$ they invested in ME was wasted and had to be duplicated to train my replacement !!!    
 
Who do you think is wrong ???  Me, for wanting faire recompense ... or THEM for expecting me to be thrilled to give more of myself than they were paying me for ???   Remember, I was NOT Management, nor a salaried employee !!!
 
You see, it's never black and white !!!

To Answer Your Questions or Concerns.

I will attempt this one more time even though we are obviously in different circles of the business cycle.Signs in foreign languages no matter how repulsive have nothing to do with the disproportionate methods of pensions.To develop pension systems that give retirees up to 85% of their yearly salary for lower skilled jobs while the money invested is losing ground requires a total committment of taxpayer money to pay the shortage. If your city , county or state government has negotiated guaranteed pensions underwritten by the state budget that is financial suicide in the event of a loss in the investments. No other way to get you to understand that. Many firemen have second jobs , the latest of which is mortgage lending services or anything requiring computers that they freely admit they do while at the station working. That is ok with you ? Hmmmm.It is old news that policemen when they arrest someone are required to handle the paperwork that day , thus the extra hours. No way around that . Jilted you say ? Just the facts.Expense accounts are not a right but a privilege not to be abused.As a wise man said once, if you don't like the requirements of the job , find another job that will treat you more fairly. Pretty simple huh ?That is pretty black and white Bobby.

Well, you have ...

... your way of thinking, and I have mine ...
 
I also have much more salient information about what I have been talking about which would challenge your point of view, but I prefer not to drop all my credentials on the table, ... essentially because I simply don't think I could sway your thinking ... 
 
We'll just have to disagree ... and thanks for not making it disagreeable !!!

The Old College Try

I am all ears to hear your credentials. I am sure they are many. However no amount of credentials will take my breath away. We disagree and I am right so there you go.Aren't computers wonderful ? I think they come across too harsh.So I hope we still remain sincerely yours.I am sure your credentials include work as a spy , special ops and in your spare time you were a cop and fireman all the while you received a PHD from Harvard.Forgot the JD from Stanford Law School. All before you were thirty years old.

Like I said ...

... I prefer not to drop my credentials on the table ... and why would I want to go to Stanford when there are so many better law school in the east ???  
Hee-Hee-Hee !!! 

Good Humor

At least you took the humor in stride. We will agree to disagree on the other subjects. None better than Stanford. Remember Harvard gave us Obama.

Ouch !!!

... and come to think about it, so did the Supreme Court nominee !!! 

Poser.

Ladies and Gents: On another thread , we have a genuine poser in our midst.

Irresponsible Minds Want to Know

There are a fraction of the fires we used to have because of regulation, materials and design, while the crime rate has plummeted since the population has aged.

Assuming that the work load has dropped why wouldn't a community consider reducing its police and fire through layoff or retirement?  What makes these two groups sacred?

I could not disagree with you more ...

Whew, Advisor !!!   Just because a township has budget problems, why, then, do you assume that there are less fires and/or less crime and/or less medical emergencies ???   The logical answer is, of course, that there is no relationship between the two ... and I'm sure you know that !!!
 
The problem is that our society has become much too accustomed to all the "entitlements" which have bored their way into what is expected from government today !!!   Same thing with schools too !!!  
 
  -  Why do we NEED some of the services communities provide ???   The problem is that during better times, these little conveniences were provided because they could be easily paid for, but now that belt tightening is in order, why can't they be eliminated ??? 
 
 -  Why do schools need AstroTurf fields, Title 9 teams, and programmes for kids who will never use them to get to college, but are left societal functional illiterates who cannot even balance a checkbook ???
 
HOWEVER ... 
 - There are no less motor vehicle accidents - there are probably more with all the idiots texting or talking on their phones !!!
 - There are no less ### of fires  - How could there ever be a statistical relationship between a budgetary shortfall and fires ???  It's illogical to think there is ...  
 - There is no lessening of crime because of budgetary problems ... as a matter of fact, today's public demands a better trained, more diversely trained, and more flexible police officers !!!   Officers need to be trained in everything from Emergency Medicine to FireMatics to Secondary Linguistics to Firearms to Computer Technology ... So, do these Officers get trained on their "off" time without renumeration ??? 
 
Sorry, not in my world ... Police, Fire, and other Emergency Services are sacrosanct ... That's not to say that they should not be dealing with matters of OT in a responsible manner ... many Departments have been only allowing OT if the matter required immediate paperwork, otherwise they are having the Officer complete it on his next shift the next day !!!
 
I just hope that those who would cut staffing for Police, Fire, & Rescue never need those services and have to be compromised because someone is not immediately available due to an increased workload from "budget cuts" !!!

Police and Fire

I did not equate community financing with the number of fires or crimes.  There are fewer crimes.  There are fewer fires.  Full Stop.  For most communities that should mean fewer fire and police personel.
If there were more fires and more crimes, that is more than could be served by the number of fire and police currently employed, I would recommend we hire more fire and police.  That may be the case in some communities.  It is just not the case in most communities.

Again, how does this all relate to the current financial problems?  It's only when there are financial problems, during a crisis, that anything can be cut no matter how un-necessary the service.  But wait there's more......how about the Navy, Airforce, German bases, Italian bases, etc, all built for a Soviet Union which no longer exists?  Deep Cuts all. 

Essential Services ...

... and their being cut when township budgets are challenged is an example I made earlier in this thread ... that's how it got here ...
 
Don't you think that IF there are indeed less fires and less crime, it is because of the efforts of the present personnel ???   When statistics raise is the wrong time to hire personnel because they need to be trained, as opposed to having well-trained veterans in place, which might very well have thwarted that hypothetical raise !!!
 
I maintain that for a number of practical and social reasons, one of our biggest mistakes as a world-leading society is to have eliminated the draft !!! There's plenty for another discussion here, but let's just let it pertain to my reply to your contention ... We certainly should have learned that you never deplete your defense just because there is a perceived lull in world threats ... that's what allowed 9-11 to happen !!!  

Well, it might be in ...

... Shangri La !!! 
 
With all due respect, Stallion, I usually figure if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is !!!
 
So what purpose is the Union there, Mate ???

Bob

You are not in touch with this subject.Unions still feel they are a value to help people get more for what they do. Nothing wrong with that. They however now know what side their bread is currently buttered.

Don't forget ...

 ... all that $$$ the spend supporting political candidates ... and the candidates usually don't have to do too much sucking up to get their support and due dollars !!!

  Good this is what needed

  Good this is what needed to be done it's about time I think I will now sell some Whirlpool laundry. 

Kudos to Whirlpool!

I'm so happy to see this!  Not only is it great for our economy, but great for a company that has been at the forefront of the appliance industry and innovation throughout the years. It's been disheartening to see most manufacturers moving production to China, Canada, or Mexico.  America is losing the race (and jobs) in innovation due to its lack in engineering education.  It's time to bring innovation back to the US with moves like this and an infusion into our education system. Kudos to Whirlpool if this is true!

just what we need more of

This is good news for the economy and good news for our industry.  Even if the state of Ohio helped out---and I am sure they did----it is still the best way to get the economy growing and to enable more Americans to buy more appliances.  Combined with GE's moving some of their laundry production back to Kentucky (unquestionably with help from the local Louisville government), these two moves bode well for our industry and country as well.