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HHGregg Flanking PC Richards

Indiana based appliance retailer HHGregg is marching north along the Atlantic coast towards Philidelphia.  HHGregg has swallowed up and converted Circuit City locations throughout Virginia and Maryland, and we have received a tip that HHGregg has secured and is developing locations throughout Philly with a target opening of March 2010.

HHGregg plans on adding 40-45 locations in the mid-Atlantic, a 30% increase over their current 120 locations nationally (or so).  At least one store will cross the river into Southern New Jersey, so says Dealerscope.

Do they have their eyes on the prize; the fertile appliance fields just across the Delaware River where sits the grand appliance palaces of the PC Richards empire?  PC Richards is protected behind high walls of once-high store rents, anti-competitive regulations, and impossible deliveries.  Is that enough to protect the empire?  Time will tell.

HHGregg July 2009 Press Release

The HHGregg Store Locator

The PC Richards Store Locator

UPDATED Jan 18:  Story from Times-Tribue.

PC Richards crosses the Delaware

Well this is interesting, PC Richards is building stores in Philadelphia too and are already hiring.

From Monster.com
Job Fair

P.C. RICHARD & SON The #1 Family Owned & Sperated TV, Allpiance & Electronic Giant.. NOW HIRING For 4 NEW SHOWROOMS - STORE MANAGEMENT - RETAIL SALES - CLERICAL - STOCK NOW HIRING - APPLIANCE & ELECTRONIC SERVICE TECHNICIANS - NOW OPEN. MT. LAUREL, NJ East Gate Square (FORMER CIRCUIT CITY) LAWRENCEVILLE/ PRINCETON, NJ Route US 1 (FORMER CIRCUIT CITY) - COMING SOON COTTMAN AVE N.E. Philadelphia (FO...View Full Job Description

The bigger they are the harder they fall......

It is interesting to see these companies expand so rapidly. As much of a pain in the "elbow" as these companies can be as competitors I do hope they know what they are doing. Seeing companies like Circuit City, Tweeter and now Bernies in New England throwing in the towel it makes me think these companies should be content to a slow, steady growth. But, as often is the case, it may seem worth the gamble. If it works out they make a killing, if not just file bankrupcy and stick the creditors with the bill. We all know what minimal margins are available in the appliance and electronic business. There isn't a whole lot of room for error.

 The RPR's base is growing

 The RPR's base is growing but will there customer base grow enough to support the huge cost of expansion. HHGregg is a nice company to deal with I have dealt with them and I would shop there if I was looking for the products they sell but they have no stores where i live neither does PC so I will have to wait.   

Question for you ...

Hey SMD1168 ... Do you know if HHGregg treats it's employees as PC does ???  

In our area, sales associates who are not "go-getters", get fired for indiscretions, and aren't interested in things like manufacturer inducements ... in other words, a place they go to fade into oblivion ... 

I know that area in A/C ... it's ripe for such a invasion !!! 

Well...

I am not sure what you mean by "indiscretions"... But I can tell you that the environment in hhgregg stores is fairly congenial. And as far as "inducements" are concerned (and I think you mean spiffs), the answer is yes and no. There are very few spiffs, if any much of the time, however hh will pay you better on certain items in which they have a vested interest in seeing sell well.

OVERALL (and I stress the word "overall"), they are a descent company to work for. If you are atleast a mediocre salesperson, you will pay your bills without much problem if you live conservatively. If you are an above average salesperson, you can be comfortable in life. There are really no physical demands, no loading or lifting, no plan-o-graming or busy work of any real kind, just pure selling (which is good because it is a straight commission job). Best of all, unless a sales manager goes against the grain, there is no "up" system! You also work a straight schedule... same schedule EVERY week and the same two days off every week. Lots and lots of carrots; very few sticks!

On the other side, and the worst and really only bad part of working at hh is the excrutiatingly long hours. And I do mean EXCRUTIATING! It's bad enough you work every Saturday and get only one Sunday off per month, but you have to attend a training day once a month, on your day off by the way, WITHOUT PAY. You also have to work any special sales they have and if that sale is on your day off, you DO NOT get another off later that week, or ever. Between Thanksgiving and New Year's Day, you work six days a week and they are all 10-12 hour days.

In a nutshell, this is an OK place to work if you are single; if you have a family, FORGET IT!

-oldschool

The Real HHGregg

"OVERALL (and I stress the word "overall"), they are a descent company to work for." - Though I am sure the poster made a simple unintended grammatical mistake in his post, he leans more to the truth then he knows. I would characterize working for HHGregg as a descent company allright.. a slow descent into poverty.  There are a few heavy hitters who will do well, but for most, it's a chew you up and spit you out company.  Even the heavy hitters I know make far less then they did 10 years ago, because the wages and commissions are steadily cut every few years.

"If you are atleast a mediocre salesperson, you will pay your bills without much problem if you live conservatively." - Conservatively here means.. living in an RV in the parking lot.

"If you are an above average salesperson, you can be comfortable in life." - Until you have a wife or child, house or car, or any other substantial obligation.

"There are really no physical demands, no loading or lifting, no plan-o-graming or busy work of any real kind, just pure selling (which is good because it is a straight commission job)." - This is true unless you feel standing in one spot most of the day for 45 hours a week is a physical demand, because sitting is considered asking to be given more work.  And by work I mean custodial dusting of items with linty dust distributing rags, sweeping, general cleaning, stacking goods on shelves, hooking up electronics, planogramming, or whatever job de jour needs done as it is considered easier to work commission salespeople.. who are not paid an hourly wage, than it is to hire hourly employees for this task.  Their motto is "If you have time to lean, you have time to clean."

"Best of all, unless a sales manager goes against the grain, there is no "up" system!" - There is almost always an up system.. they call it the point, and one basically stands at the front of the store, like a Walmart greeter (which does annoy most customers), and hopes that one of these folks needs something from their department.  Since only one is allowed, everyone else must fall in line behind this person awaiting their turn.  However, you are not to congregate, so you have to remember what order you and the other salespeople are in, and figure out somewhere else to stand waiting in the department.  Moreover, there are almost always more salespeople than customers in the building, which there is almost always someone waiting at the point waiting to greet a customer.. which also means there is almost always a line of salespeople waiting to greet customers.. which means there is almost always an picking order, which by my definition, is an "up" system.  Also, since technically, there is no leaving a customer, no matter how trivial their needs may be, it is almost impossible to pick up two customers, as your buddies at the door have already greeted them and thus "claimed them" and will be following behind where ever they go.

"You also work a straight schedule... same schedule EVERY week and the same two days off every week. Lots and lots of carrots; very few sticks!" - Yeah, sorry buddy, not anymore, this is one of the cascading chains of benefits the company has chosen to take away.

"On the other side, and the worst and really only bad part of working at hh is the excrutiatingly long hours. And I do mean EXCRUTIATING! It's bad enough you work every Saturday and get only one Sunday off per month, but you have to attend a training day once a month, on your day off by the way, WITHOUT PAY. You also have to work any special sales they have and if that sale is on your day off, you DO NOT get another off later that week, or ever. Between Thanksgiving and New Year's Day, you work six days a week and they are all 10-12 hour days." - Yea, this is all true.  Oh, and I forgot, you will have to pay for your own mandatory uniforms.

Let's Hope ...

... NEM feels better now that he has gotten this off his chest !!!   Anyone else wish to "debrief" themselves about this employer ??? 

Hmmmmmmmm ...

Sounds like some form of slavery to me ... and people actually LIKE to work there for reasonable periods of time ???   Sounds like a criteria for working there might just be a full lobotomy ... and if so, do they make YOU pay for it ???

Hell, years ago I threatened to leave a job because they wouldn't reimburse me for time away from home on a business trip which took ten (10) days a month where they refused to left me come home on the weekend ... I actually LOST $$$ because I wasn't working my part-time job !!!    They made some accommodations in consideration of my point ... I eventually left anyway because the travel was wearin' me out !!!

Bermuda Bob

What the hell are you talking about?! Seriousely dude, lay off the cocaine next time you write a post.

This is a Drug Free Site

Maybe its me, but I thought Bermuda was pretty clear.  He said in summary:
You should be paid for the work that you do.  The company shouldn't get free time.
You should get time off.....cause that's the American-way.
When I worked for a company that required "free" time, I beat an accomodation out of them, but quit anyway.

What don't you get?

Cheers !!!

Thank you, Advisor !!!

Did not know I needed a "Designated Translator", so I'm glad you were there for me ...

My only addition might be to say that a company does not have the right to own your every waking moment unless they are paying you for it and you agree to it ... when sales associates work totally on commission they are essentially private contractors (or the equivalent thereof) so such requirements of one's "free" time is essentially morally and ethically wrong !!! 

By the way, I taken particular and specific umbrage at anyone accusing me of anything illegal ...

 well put oldschool   

 well put oldschool   

And the beat goes on

As if independents didn't have enough to worry about, Regional Power Retailers are expanding their scope. The move by HH Gregg is not unlike the test market expansion of Pacific Sales/Best Buy. In both cases, Regional Powerhouses (HH Gregg and Pacific Sales) are pushing their regional envelope toward national expansion.  If you subscribe to Twice Magazine's Top 100 retailers, it is easy to calculate the combined market share of the thousands of independent dealers that don't make that list.  Over time, that slice of the pie has practically vanished.  Sorry to throw cold water on your "dream scenaro" Bob, but I don't think the Power Retailers will devour themselves as long as there remains a few "easy pickens" (Independents) in the market for them to satisfy their hunger for market share. 

This Could be Worth Watching ...

Think of it ... in a perfect world, the two beat each other into oblivion and the only people left standing are the true professionals in the industry !!! 

OK, you caught me drifting off into my "dream world" ... but as Eliza Doolittle once sang ... "Wouldn't it be Loverly" ???